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obama by two, 49%/47%. "the new york times" this weekend reported on the two campaigns' ongoing debate preps. here is what they said about romney's prep. quote, mr. romney's team has concluded that the debates are about creating moments and has equipped him with a series of zingers he's memorized and has been practicing on aides since august. bob shrum, you have been on that particular role, preparing candidates for debate. what do you make of romney, a rather stiff customer to begin with, coming off as sort of a henny youngman or whatever, some sort of a don rickles with some zingers. i don't think of him as a zinger kind of guy where obama is expected to be left helpless. what do you make of that strategy? >> first of all, if you had it, you wouldn't announce it. it's kind of stupid. >> why are they leaking it? >> i don't know. because they're trying to hold onto their people, they're undisciplined, i have no idea. number two, zingers don't exist in a vacuum. it's not just coming up with some funny lines.
obama by two, 49%/47%. "the new york times" this weekend reported on the two campaigns' ongoing debate preps. here is what they said about romney's prep. quote, mr. romney's team has concluded that the debates are about creating moments and has equipped him with a series of zingers he's memorized and has been practicing on aides since august. bob shrum, you have been on that particular role, preparing candidates for debate. what do you make of romney, a rather stiff customer to begin...
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obama aides are trying to pin it all on mitt romney. believe it or not, they are accusing the governor of lying. of course, they are the ones that are. watch this. >> again and again and again, he told the story to the american people that is completely... in contrast with what he said before and unfounded in fact. and that's going to catch up with him. i give him credit for strong performance. i give him an "f" for being honest with the american people. >> sean: for 90 minutes, president obama lied about his record and president obama lied about what he would do in a second term. you want proof? here it is. >> if you want to be president, you owe the american people the truth, the truth. >> the fact check. >> this claim is based on a fiscal fiction. >> the bipartisan nonprofit committee has called that a gimmick. the president is also counting on savings agreed to last year when the white house and congress agreed to raise the debt ceiling. >> governor romney's central economic plan calls for a $5 trillion tax cut. >> mostly fiction. >
obama aides are trying to pin it all on mitt romney. believe it or not, they are accusing the governor of lying. of course, they are the ones that are. watch this. >> again and again and again, he told the story to the american people that is completely... in contrast with what he said before and unfounded in fact. and that's going to catch up with him. i give him credit for strong performance. i give him an "f" for being honest with the american people. >> sean: for 90...
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how are we to interpret these two obamas? >> i really believe that this can be explained in a nutshell. to understand barack obama, one has to understand, he is a man of the left. leftism, as i wrote in my column is the most dynamic religion in the world, more than christianity, more dynamic than islam. his trinity. christians have the father, the son and the holy ghost. the left has race, gender class. that's how your kids will learn life in college. that's the prism through which he sees the world. he is honest to leftism. while there is demagoguery here, no question -- he is true to his faith. >> wlook, i'm a liberal democrat. the point is here -- not that he is left or right. the point here is that we know what he is in these tapes now. he revealed himself-- >>> was it the real obam in 2008 or this other -- >> oh, i wrote that piece in the "los angeles times," exposing his philly speech as being the race man. he focuses everything about race. [overlapping dialogue] >> that was also class. that's my point. >> sean: he is s
how are we to interpret these two obamas? >> i really believe that this can be explained in a nutshell. to understand barack obama, one has to understand, he is a man of the left. leftism, as i wrote in my column is the most dynamic religion in the world, more than christianity, more dynamic than islam. his trinity. christians have the father, the son and the holy ghost. the left has race, gender class. that's how your kids will learn life in college. that's the prism through which he...
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exactly where it was when president obama took office. there was only a net gain of 114,000 jobs created last month. too low for sustained unemployment reduction. so something for both sides to like. the president has to be thrilled about this jobs numbers, though. it's a game changer unless it's not. the president is the out on the trail pushing it. >> as a nation we are moving forward again. we're moving forward. more people are getting jobs. now, every month reminds us that we've still got too many of our friends and neighbors looking for work. today's news certainly is not an excuse to talk down the economy to score a few political points. it's a reminder that this country has come too far to turn back now. >> my friends, whenever fall comes the leaves turn pretty colors and the jobs numbers bring in our dynamic duo, peter and jared. how are you my wonky friends? >> we're wonking along. >> we're pretty wonky. >> do you think that wonk spelled backwards is know? >> excellent. you just blew my mind. >> as is k-n-o-w. were you trying to
exactly where it was when president obama took office. there was only a net gain of 114,000 jobs created last month. too low for sustained unemployment reduction. so something for both sides to like. the president has to be thrilled about this jobs numbers, though. it's a game changer unless it's not. the president is the out on the trail pushing it. >> as a nation we are moving forward again. we're moving forward. more people are getting jobs. now, every month reminds us that we've still...
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the obama campaign knows it. and i think you're going to -- i'll be curious to see tonight, who says the words -- the number "47" more. president obama or mitt romney in defending himself, if you will. who's saying 100% more, which has been the romney line on this. so ultimately, i feel like that is the sort of stylistic substance, if you will combine it, if you will, that i'm watching tonight and seeing how romney does this. >> chuck, in terms of how much that 47% remark hurt mr. romney, i think part of the reason that it hurt so badly is because it dovetailed with the personal attributes of mr. romney in terms of him being a really wealthy guy. the questions about his own tax status and things like that. the question of how much his tax plans will help wealthy people like himself. is there any sign that the romney campaign has come up with sort of an anecdote to their 47% prlem. a different way to explain that, other than the, what i think have been sort of weak responses to trying to explain it away over the l
the obama campaign knows it. and i think you're going to -- i'll be curious to see tonight, who says the words -- the number "47" more. president obama or mitt romney in defending himself, if you will. who's saying 100% more, which has been the romney line on this. so ultimately, i feel like that is the sort of stylistic substance, if you will combine it, if you will, that i'm watching tonight and seeing how romney does this. >> chuck, in terms of how much that 47% remark hurt...
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obama had the facts and didn't use them, but this is what obama does. in 2008 when he ran against hillary clinton, people said he wasn't fighting hard enough and against john mccain and in the health care debate, he wasn't fighting hard enough. he won all the fights. >> what's interesting, our first team and others brought up the comparison of the incumbent curse. george w. bush, ronald reagan in '84, george h.w. bush in '92, the president didn't seem to be on his game. mitt romney made a surprise appearance to a cpac event in denver still courting the conservatives but say if you know people that voted for president obama, tell them to come on over to our side. that's ironic because i don't imagine he knows many conservative republicans who voted for president obama the last time or plan to this time. nevertheless, you're no fan of governor romney. did you become a fan last night as a conservative who has doubted his credibility from the minute he entered this race? >> well, i think my credentials as a non-romney show are pretty well secured. i have go
obama had the facts and didn't use them, but this is what obama does. in 2008 when he ran against hillary clinton, people said he wasn't fighting hard enough and against john mccain and in the health care debate, he wasn't fighting hard enough. he won all the fights. >> what's interesting, our first team and others brought up the comparison of the incumbent curse. george w. bush, ronald reagan in '84, george h.w. bush in '92, the president didn't seem to be on his game. mitt romney made a...
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mirror image for president obama. every time he gets a question, he's going to try to focus on mitt romney's plans, governor romney's plans for the future and say, listen, we may not be in the best shape right now, but it's going to be even worse if we implement his plans. >> so, each of them will be pivoting? >> reporter: each time. but here's the thing. and both sides don't really know what's going to happen tonight, because, as david pointed out, this format is so loose. once they get into the discussion, almost anything can happen. they could directly challenge each other. jim lehrer could come in, the moderator, directly challenge them. but they really don't know. >> we'll right here with you along the abc news to react and fact check one on one the debate coming up at 6:00 p.m. pacific time, 9:00 p.m. eastern. we have two developing stories from overseas. tonight the city of aleppo t commercial equivalent of they new york city. four car bombs killed nearly 40 people. eyewitnesses described what felt like series
mirror image for president obama. every time he gets a question, he's going to try to focus on mitt romney's plans, governor romney's plans for the future and say, listen, we may not be in the best shape right now, but it's going to be even worse if we implement his plans. >> so, each of them will be pivoting? >> reporter: each time. but here's the thing. and both sides don't really know what's going to happen tonight, because, as david pointed out, this format is so loose. once...
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if you want to talk about specifics, look at what president obama said. >> talk about mr. romney. if you're going to talk about the president, we will have to close the discussion now, but if you're -- >> this is a martin game here, of course. let's not beat up on the president -- >> we're just talking about mr. romney. >> the fact of the matter is what i said at the outseth still stands. i think it's about a vision of where you want to take the country and how you want to move forward. as it relates to his tax plan, he has said very clearly that, a, he wants to cut certain tax loopholes, b, he wants to keep the bush era tax cut rates in place, and c, we need to make sure we can work with congress in a bipartisan fashion to get it done. i think that's very fair, i think it's a question that will be asked of him tomorrow by jim lehrer. >> it's also been deemed as mathematically impossible. thank you. as the candidates gear up, we are headed to denver. we will broadcast live from the university of denver, so be sure to tune in tomorrow, 4:00 p.m. eastern. >>> next, the 47 and bain.
if you want to talk about specifics, look at what president obama said. >> talk about mr. romney. if you're going to talk about the president, we will have to close the discussion now, but if you're -- >> this is a martin game here, of course. let's not beat up on the president -- >> we're just talking about mr. romney. >> the fact of the matter is what i said at the outseth still stands. i think it's about a vision of where you want to take the country and how you want...
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why did obama look down a lot? >> he was surprised and was caught a little off guard by how well prepared romney was for this debate. quite frankly i was too. i think i was looking down because he was nervous for that reason. i think he was also looking down at his notes trying to find points to i can ma. in -- points to make. that being said he lacked a lot of details. and while he caught obama on a bad day, he needs to be prepared for the next one. i don't think obama will make the same mistake twice. >> statistically you don't get two big debate showings in a roa. you don't beat the team 14-0 two days in a row. >> can't obama say the 40 percent video is a bad thing. or will that look lame that he is pushing that point. >> did he miss the window? >> i don't think it is about bane or the 47%. when fer you are doing -- when ever you are doing a debate, you are bound to miss some, but he missed all but one. >> everyone supporting obama wanted him to be angry and jump on romney when he was playing fast and loose with
why did obama look down a lot? >> he was surprised and was caught a little off guard by how well prepared romney was for this debate. quite frankly i was too. i think i was looking down because he was nervous for that reason. i think he was also looking down at his notes trying to find points to i can ma. in -- points to make. that being said he lacked a lot of details. and while he caught obama on a bad day, he needs to be prepared for the next one. i don't think obama will make the same...
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obama angry and describing him as having an accent. it's not subtle but i'm sure they think it's great politics. so tonight has been an unsettled big night. tomorrow night is going to make tomorrow look like a traffic camera on a desert highway. i'll be here in new york. chris matthews will be in denver.
obama angry and describing him as having an accent. it's not subtle but i'm sure they think it's great politics. so tonight has been an unsettled big night. tomorrow night is going to make tomorrow look like a traffic camera on a desert highway. i'll be here in new york. chris matthews will be in denver.
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what should obama get with 7.8%? it seems like it's within the range there and everybody is pooh-poohing it and oh, geez. i know why jack welch is scared, that number is too damn scared to reagan's number. >> i think how this works with the president's narrative is that we're moving in the right direction, don't change -- you know, don't change horses, don't go back to a playbook that demonstrably didn't work, the george bush supply side stuff that he can legitimately tie to mitt romney. he had a narrative that said the economy is moving in the right direction, and i think this job report actually strengthens that narrative. and much more than levels of variables like the level of the employment rate, it's momentum that i think forms voters' views on the economy. >> i think it was interesting that jack let out that last night he tweeted, i didn't know this, he had tweeted 7.9% was his prediction. that is not exactly a wide deviation from what he thought it was going to be. i would just say this now, i have tremendous
what should obama get with 7.8%? it seems like it's within the range there and everybody is pooh-poohing it and oh, geez. i know why jack welch is scared, that number is too damn scared to reagan's number. >> i think how this works with the president's narrative is that we're moving in the right direction, don't change -- you know, don't change horses, don't go back to a playbook that demonstrably didn't work, the george bush supply side stuff that he can legitimately tie to mitt romney....
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the conventions were great on that for obama. and so you could see coming into this, in which they say, look, we are ahead, you are the president, we don't want you out there waving around the 47 percent number. be presidential. but that doesn't really work in debates for all of the reasons we are talking about here, you have an opponent, when romney ride to do it in the republican debate it didn't really work when he had a lead at one point he tried to stay above the fray and he engaged gingrich in a later debate and it worked better and i think the challenge for them now, for the obama team now is, they clearly can't follow the strategy in the second debate. what they also want to avoid a situation that happened with al fore where, al gore where you are seeing a different human being on the stage in the second debate than you are in the first debate. >> rose: go ahead. >> i think there is a certain starkness in the debate that you don't have in the convention. the contrast is extraordinary, in a convention, you are idolized 20,
the conventions were great on that for obama. and so you could see coming into this, in which they say, look, we are ahead, you are the president, we don't want you out there waving around the 47 percent number. be presidential. but that doesn't really work in debates for all of the reasons we are talking about here, you have an opponent, when romney ride to do it in the republican debate it didn't really work when he had a lead at one point he tried to stay above the fray and he engaged...
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that's not right to pay for obama care. and also got point to out that he's in favor of a tax plain that will kill 700,000 jobs. and so he had the chance to answer those questions, or not answer them as the case may be but then i think even more important was the chance to talk about where we're going in the future. what he would do and what i would do and what he described was in my view a reiteratation of the status quo. he'll keep doing what he's done in the past. he'll have a stimulus. hire more government workers. he's is going to pick winners and losers line solyndra. a friend of mine said no he doesn't like picking winners and lowers he just likes picking losers. and so, of course he's in favor of higher taxes. yesterday the vice president blurted out the truth. he said in fact they do want to raise taxes a trillion dollars. i don't want to raise tax on any americans because i want to create good jobs in america. now, i take america in a very different direction. first of all i want to make sure that our policies enc
that's not right to pay for obama care. and also got point to out that he's in favor of a tax plain that will kill 700,000 jobs. and so he had the chance to answer those questions, or not answer them as the case may be but then i think even more important was the chance to talk about where we're going in the future. what he would do and what i would do and what he described was in my view a reiteratation of the status quo. he'll keep doing what he's done in the past. he'll have a stimulus. hire...
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where was obama tonight? >> progressives from chris matthews to bill maher to michael moore all across the progressive wing of the democratic party, there's great disappointment. >> they were jumping out of their seats watching. >> i understand. i understand there was a hunger for us to attack romney more personally than the president did last night. >> bottom line, romney scores, but was last night the first to game-change his campaign and what they sorely needed? >> the only loophole he had enough courage to mention last night was big bird and public broadcasting. >> i think governor strickland was watching a different debate from me and the american people. >> yeah, big bird got hit by the bus last night. joining me is ed schultz, good to have you here. i was watching you last night, your immediate reaction saying that the president was off his game. you were stunned. and then you had this exchange with david plouffe from the obama campaign after the debate. take a look. >> mr. plouffe, why didn't the pres
where was obama tonight? >> progressives from chris matthews to bill maher to michael moore all across the progressive wing of the democratic party, there's great disappointment. >> they were jumping out of their seats watching. >> i understand. i understand there was a hunger for us to attack romney more personally than the president did last night. >> bottom line, romney scores, but was last night the first to game-change his campaign and what they sorely needed?...
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where was obama tonight? >> and chris matthews joins us now. chris, really, tell us how you really feel. you're a supporter of president obama. what do you think happens? >> yeah. well the way the president handled it was just not up to the task. romney was able to talk about things like funding for pbs and never had explained his position supporting bankruptcy for the american auto industry. obama rescued the american auto industry, our largest industrial industry, it never came up. on the very heart of the romney economic plan, on the tax cut, why did he insist on the deductions? they're not details, the president called them. they're not loopholes, they're mortgag mortgages, charitable deductions, state and local. huge issues at the very heart of the romney economic plan. the 47%, he let romney come out there as a guy who cared about people and social security. he's on the record with his fundraisers where you pay $50,000 to hear what he really thinks as using your phrase. he said these people were all moochers and bums. on health care, four
where was obama tonight? >> and chris matthews joins us now. chris, really, tell us how you really feel. you're a supporter of president obama. what do you think happens? >> yeah. well the way the president handled it was just not up to the task. romney was able to talk about things like funding for pbs and never had explained his position supporting bankruptcy for the american auto industry. obama rescued the american auto industry, our largest industrial industry, it never came...
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video at a press conference where obama says nothing news worthy. that was explosive tape, not at all. last month it was the drudge report, which means the romney c campaign, it was them again dousing themselves in gasoline and pulling the fire alarm as what was hyped as outrageous video of president obama saying he believes in redistribution. specifically it was that he believes essentially in the progressive tax code that we have had in this country for a time period that's more easily measured in centuries than in individual years. again, not exactly a bomb shell. now they are dousing themselves in gasoline and hitting the fire alarm all over again over a video of president obama speaking as a candidate in 2007. in this video, which the right is very excited about tonight but which has been available online since 2007, mr. obama, then a candidate, acknowledges the presence in the room of his former pastor from chicago, reverend jeremiah wright. steve smith was part of the strategic team in 2008 when they decided that they would not attack barack
video at a press conference where obama says nothing news worthy. that was explosive tape, not at all. last month it was the drudge report, which means the romney c campaign, it was them again dousing themselves in gasoline and pulling the fire alarm as what was hyped as outrageous video of president obama saying he believes in redistribution. specifically it was that he believes essentially in the progressive tax code that we have had in this country for a time period that's more easily...
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obama, or romney? i won't embarrass you on wednesday if you're wrong. >> my guess is it will be dead even. >> thank you, steve, villa skype and chris. president obama up by 11 points in key swing states. the latest battleground map. plus, why a "new york times" article says as iowa goes, so may romney's chances of winning the white house. steve will return with that beautiful shot villa skype. in the next few hours, elizabeth warren and scott brown are going to face off again, second debate for them. and it comes as a new poll is out showing a mass shift in massachusetts. and joip our conversation on twitter. you can find us @tamronhall and @newsnation. this is my song pick of the day. [ male announcer ] your mouth is cleanest after a dentist visit. ♪ but between check-ups, it goes through a lot. ♪ tartar builds and that feeling fades. with new listerine® ultraclean™, you can keep it dentist clean. it's the only mouthwash with proven tartar control and new everfresh™ technology for a powerful
obama, or romney? i won't embarrass you on wednesday if you're wrong. >> my guess is it will be dead even. >> thank you, steve, villa skype and chris. president obama up by 11 points in key swing states. the latest battleground map. plus, why a "new york times" article says as iowa goes, so may romney's chances of winning the white house. steve will return with that beautiful shot villa skype. in the next few hours, elizabeth warren and scott brown are going to face off...
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people assume that obama will be better. so that may mean he doesn't have to do as well as all that to surprise people and say this guy is really up to the job. but the pressure is really on romney to change the direction of this race and to, you know, let people know it's not necessarily over. that can be done in various debates. but this first one is going to form the most impressions. >> john harwood says only twice have these televised debates seemed to shift the outcome of the race. in 2004 george w. bush went up against al gore. in gore's case, a strategist thought he lost that debate in the spin room. so i wonder, matt, how much of this is decided by what the candidates actually say? and how much by the pundits the day after? >> i give the american people some credit. i think they can listen and watch. and most evidence has shown that people start paying attention maybe around the conventions. they pay a lot of attention in the debates as well. what romney has to do is to get people who don't think obama has earned a
people assume that obama will be better. so that may mean he doesn't have to do as well as all that to surprise people and say this guy is really up to the job. but the pressure is really on romney to change the direction of this race and to, you know, let people know it's not necessarily over. that can be done in various debates. but this first one is going to form the most impressions. >> john harwood says only twice have these televised debates seemed to shift the outcome of the race....
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where was obama tonight? he should watch -- well not just "hardball", rachel, he should watch you, the reverend al, lawrence, there's a hot debate going on in this country, here on this network is where we're having the debate. we have our knives out we go after the people and the facts. what was he doing tonight? he went in there disarmed. he was wait an hour and a half, i think i can get through this thing. where as romney. i loved the split screen, staring at obama, addressing him. he did it just right. i'm coming at an incumbent. i've got to beat him. and i don't care what this guy moderator whatever he think he ises because i'm going to ignore him. what was romney doing? he was winning. >> he was winning tonight. that's my thought. >> you give him five more of these nights, forget it. >> it puts the pressure on the president. >> obama should wash msnbc. he will learn something every night. this stuff we're watching, this is like first grade to most of us. we know all of this stuff. >> i was in front of a
where was obama tonight? he should watch -- well not just "hardball", rachel, he should watch you, the reverend al, lawrence, there's a hot debate going on in this country, here on this network is where we're having the debate. we have our knives out we go after the people and the facts. what was he doing tonight? he went in there disarmed. he was wait an hour and a half, i think i can get through this thing. where as romney. i loved the split screen, staring at obama, addressing him....
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and you could see obama's body language. he was petulan it, looking down because he knows he couldn't get it done. that by itself crossing the aisle for common ground. don't have to give up your principles. if you call that moderate fine. i'm telling you it's pragmatic. that's what you've got here, a conservative who's pragmatic. >> democrats thinking those are moderate positions we're closer to a deal than we thought we were. >> that's right. >> now what he dead, and i don't think he actually changed any of his policies. i've been following this campaign painfully so at times minute-by-minute for the last year or so. up don't think he changed substantively. what i think he did was use different language and tone. when he began talking about the role of government he talked about caring for people who are less fortunate. >> not scaring. i got to get out. steve we're going to have you back again. love to have you back. jennifer's going to hang around for awhile for the full show tonight. i want to switch gears. this goes to w
and you could see obama's body language. he was petulan it, looking down because he knows he couldn't get it done. that by itself crossing the aisle for common ground. don't have to give up your principles. if you call that moderate fine. i'm telling you it's pragmatic. that's what you've got here, a conservative who's pragmatic. >> democrats thinking those are moderate positions we're closer to a deal than we thought we were. >> that's right. >> now what he dead, and i don't...
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michelle obama. i met michelle obama when she game to headquarter. she was disturbed about the white walls. she actually had a party for the children of staff so they could have pizza and could do color -- we did obama art with 5-year-old and 8-year-olds. she got a whole bunch of kid posters. we had them all over the headquarter until we got our sign age. those posters, the kids' art stayed up for the whole campaign. it got layered and lost with the sign j. but it was kind like just very michelle obama. you hear about her dedication to kids. that was how i met her. the period of the early days of the campaign. it was, you know, i loved talking about this time because it was an elect trait time in the campaign. it was spiritful, innovative, and hepful. and the migration to chicago was like a -- like the testament to the lure reward of entrepreneurship. people leaving everything tbhiend pursue the unimaginable. it became the gathering place for idealist, innovators, risk takers and while it's true that, you know, i guess you could say that the young ha
michelle obama. i met michelle obama when she game to headquarter. she was disturbed about the white walls. she actually had a party for the children of staff so they could have pizza and could do color -- we did obama art with 5-year-old and 8-year-olds. she got a whole bunch of kid posters. we had them all over the headquarter until we got our sign age. those posters, the kids' art stayed up for the whole campaign. it got layered and lost with the sign j. but it was kind like just very...
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mirror image for president obama. every time he gets a question, he's going to try to focus on mitt romney's plans, governor romney's plans for the future and say, listen, we may not be in the best shape right now, but it's going to be even worse if we implement his plans. >> each of them will be pivoting? >> reporter: each time. here's the thing. both sides don't really know what's going to happen tonight, because, as david pointed out, this format is so loose. once they get into the discussion, almost anything can happen. they could directly challenge ch other. jim lehrer could directly challenge them. but they really don't know. >> it is going to be such an exciting night. and a reminder that george and i will be right here with you and the abc news team, ready to react and analyze and fact check. one-on-one, the candidates debate, 9:00 p.m.astern, 6:00 central. >>> and we move on now on "world news" because we have two developing stories from overseas. tonight in syria, the city of aleppo, their new york city, fou
mirror image for president obama. every time he gets a question, he's going to try to focus on mitt romney's plans, governor romney's plans for the future and say, listen, we may not be in the best shape right now, but it's going to be even worse if we implement his plans. >> each of them will be pivoting? >> reporter: each time. here's the thing. both sides don't really know what's going to happen tonight, because, as david pointed out, this format is so loose. once they get into...